Evil in Confucianism

Preface; this is a look at the darkness of the soul at it’s darkest before the light. Said in any other way, in so many words, and you have already made a mistake. Beware for your very souls!

Recently, the Chessman said something on Facebook that hit a little different.

Blessed Sunday! Studying the 7 deadly sins this week and sloth today. The idea of sloth not just as laziness but as being unfocused and busy at things that don’t matter was a nice insight.

“As the door turneth upon his hinges, so doth the slothful upon his bed.” (Proverbs 26:14 KJV)

“Be not slothful in business; be fervent in spirit, serving the Lord.” (Romans 12:11 KJV)

The thing is, why is Chessman quoting the bible?

I don’t mean why is he dragging morality into this… I mean, why the Bible and not Confucius?

I really want you to take a moment and see what is going on here. In order to do so you must at least — even only momentarily — attempt to comprehend the massive, blinding influence Confucianism has had on Chinese culture. To the Chinese, Confucianism is life itself — it is survival. Without getting to deep into it, Confucianism as seen as the means by which the Chinese have survived. Those who stray from the path do not make it to the next generation. This reflects strongly on kungfu culture; it is, in fact, the very thing that allows Chinese kungfu quintessentially Chinese and quintessentially Kungfu.

This isn’t a knock on the bible. We here in the West grew up in a Christian country. This affects us in ways we cannot comprehend. However, you can see the approachings of the horizons of it from far away, through careful thought, if you learn your zen meditation.

This got me thinking. What does it mean when it is said, “This generation is evil, and we cannot pass Kungfu down to it.” Whoever the we is — which, incidentally, has come to include me. I know this is a lot to process so let’s take a step back and let me just say that I am of a very low skill level. However, I seem to have entered the door, in some small way.

And even from this vantage point, I can easily see, “This generation is evil, and we cannot pass Kungfu down to it.” But here’s the paradox. Even as I realize this, I realize that I myself am also “evil”, and that is a very large reason why I am of middling to no skill in kung fu.

How did I pass through the door? It’s simple, there is a door, and you simply pass through it. For example, when I met my sifu on the street, I bowed down to my sifu. In the middle of a crosswalk, I saw him driving, so I bowed down on the street. He smiled. Another way, was that when my ‘friend’ did something disrespectful and a senior student had to put him in his place, I stood there and let him yell at me too even though I had nothing to do with it. Another way? I basically failed out of University for not going to my classes, because I was busy practicing kungfu in the park for 4 hours every morning. Yes, I am a sick puppy. Frankly, I had friends in gradeschool but I was also something of a loner or a loser– which was strange, since I seemed otherwise to have led a normal life, with friends, parties and such. But looking back I realize that some of my greatest personality flaws, which were criticized and caused me to become ostracized from most others were my excessive generosity and unwillingness to be abusive to others; my desire to work hard instead of socialize and play; my desire to explore nature and my natural intelligence.

In short, I passed through the door because I wanted to. That’s all. It’s like that line from the neijing tu. “Those who desire to study this will surely achieve something good.” Anyways, after all of this I sort of realize, that evil here is not like what we in the west think of as evil. We are not talking about the devil, or sin per-se. We are talking about a kind of “evil” that “leads to death,” but not necessarily through sin.

Look, let me explain it this way. Let’s go back to the 1970s. Milton Freidman famously argued, “The social responsibility of business is to increase its profits.” That is true by common sense (and incidentally, by law). Yet what most people do not know about this is that Mr. Freidman was responding to someone. Now we need to go back — back to the future — to the 1950s.

Keith Davis was a major business ethics scholar in the 1950s–1960s, and he did state quite plainly that ethical and socially responsible companies tend to perform better over the long run than immoral ones. He is best known for formulating the Iron Law of Responsibility in 1960: “Those who do not use power responsibly will lose it.” This gave birth to the New American Capitalism — the strategy that dominated world business and finance for the next 100 years.

Business ethics explicitly pays

The idea that a postwar scholar would identify morality as a key driver of success would sound very familiar to a Confucian scholar. In “Can Business Afford to Ignore Social Responsibilities?” and “Business and Society” was shown the idea that ethical behavior is economically rational; trust reduces transaction costs, reputation attracts customers, employees, and partners, and social legitimacy protects firms from regulation, backlash, and collapse.

Further, he stated the quiet part out loud: Immoral firms tend to destroy their own operating environment. Davis observed that companies acting irresponsibly invite regulation, provoke public backlash, and destabilize the very markets they depend on. This leads to lower long-term profitability, even if short-term gains occur.

The reason thus explained; this is not just an issue of morality, it is an issue of intelligence, wisdom, discipline, and experience. Many people simply do not understand the tradeoff between short term gains and long term profitability. What Davis claimed is a core assumption of Confucianism:

Ethics is not a cost; it is a long-term investment in your very survival.

“A company that acts honestly and responsibly will tend to do better over the long run than one that acts immorally or irresponsibly.”

Now let’s turn back to Confucianism; it’s easy to understand now. Confucianism states that people who take the short-term benefit are evil.

Who is evil?

You are very likely evil, but I’m not really criticizing you. I’m not criticizing anyone. However, there are some events that led up to this epiphany. Last summer some people got banned from some martial arts forums for talking politics. Well, not just talking politics, but spewing vitriol against President Donald Trump. The thing is, you can be a democrat if you want but spewing hatred is spewing hatred. Me? I live in Asia. I’m not a part of the system. I’m just saying, that America has republicans and democrats. I’m not judging that, i’m judging the spewing of hatred. Democracy means you get to vote. Spewing hatred against a political party is not Democracy. It’s anti-democracy because you become so blinded by hate that you do not do the democratic thing and vote the bad guys out — you try to do skirt the system (and the law) by taking short-term action. One of the first steps people engage in is telling lies and spreading propaganda because “the end justifies the means”. This is a common cry and yet it is just as anti-Christian as it is anti-Confucian.

It is in this light that one of my younger kungfu siblings blocked me on social media. Actually, two of them did.

You may find this surprising on many fronts. Let’s just keep it simple: I said that they were posting too many swear words, and spewing too much hatred. They argued with me. I said that they had been misrepresenting facts which were reported in newspapers. They argued with me about that too. But the final straw was when I pointed out they were posting fake AI-generated images to support the previous content. After that, I was blocked. BTW this is iron-clad — the photo was exposed as AI generated by the BBC and once you see the mistakes in the photo the AI made, it is impossible to deny. Yet, they argued with me, and then blocked me. They allowed themselves to become blinded by hatred, they lost the ability to deal with things fairly and rationally, and as a result they excused themselves from our kungfu family. I’ve done nothing to upset anyone. I am not even making a big deal about being their senior, like I am some sort of boss — even the son can criticize the father, if done properly. It’s in the dizi gui. The fact that I am senior is just an uno card that underscores the absurdity of this situation.

Thus, the kungfu cannot be passed down to them. It’s not because they are being punished. It’s not because they can’t learn from Sifu. It’s because they cut themselves off from the truth, from the family, from a source of truth and kungfu — I tell you, I am sure they can learn just as much from me as I could ever learn from them. Now, who will teach them?

The Proof is in the Pudding

Are you a master yet? Are we there yet, pappa smurf?

Let this not be seen as an attack, heaven forbid. But I will say, if this was the only thing I had to mention of their evil, I would not say it. However, the proof is in the pudding. Let’s be honest for a moment. Their kungfu is not good. One of them specializes in therapeutic sit-down qigong for seniors, and another lacks several wude virtues such as min. This is not an attack because it is not unusual. “Min” for example is an extremely hard concept to grasp for Westerners because there is absolutely nothing like it in western culture. To call it “dilligence” is wrong. It is no surprise then that almost every martial artist I have ever met in Canada lacks this basic confucian virtue. Why would they have it? They’re not confucian!

And so, this isn’t an attack, although it will surely be taken as one by the guilty. However, I assure you, they are not “guilty”. You see, “Evil” is the wrong word from a western perspective. A better word would be “not confucian” or “not chinese”. Small c, meaning, informally so. A very hard concept to understand.

Is this the legacy of Wang Ziping?

What have you done? (What have we done? What have you done? What have you done?)

If not you, then who? If not me, then who? If not now, when?

Just go and do it. Walk through the door. No one is stopping you. That’s the story of Wang Ziping just as much as it is the story of the patriarchs. A story filled with hope — emunah — and it is in that light this story should be told; for against all odds, a hope may arise — a star may shine that you may hitch your wagon to it — for all you need is a dream. So go, and dream — for dreams are the highest reality.

Why don’t famous masters post on the forums?

It was very well documented that back in the earlier days of the internet, in JMA circles some very well respected english-speaking folks posted regularly.  They all left because they became sick of arguing over silly issues with anonymous, inexperienced derps online. –BrendanF

So if I revealed I was a shaolin monk, no one could argue with me without breaking the forum’s rules.

In the the Advanced Study League on KGS, one of the things we learned over many years of running the league is that participation tends to get more rewarded than skill level. This is an emergent property of assigning points to wins. We tried to compensate by adding 1 point for losses vs 2. for wins, but this made it worse, and a guy with a 40% win ratio won one month because he showed up to all of his matches. That’s one issue.

The other is what jks said. “…boards like this have become a niche thing; social media has changed and evolved.” So how did social media change? battle.net general chat (starcraft, barrens general chat, and blizzard forum abuse) literally forced blizzard to make a RealID. Discord was next, and roblox chat. What we learned from usenet is that an unmoderated forum cannot survive. I suspect what we will learn from the modern social media era, by hook or by crook, is that an anonymous forum cannot survive. First, and especially due to AI slop and fakery, an anonymous person has no credibility, not anymore. If you can’t demonstrate your previous history you have no previous history. This was always true but we turned a blind eye to it as an experiment. It didn’t work. Forums which protect anonymity eventually fall into irrelevance. Look around, all of the modern social media platforms are a) moderated b) not really anonymous. ‘doxxing’ is a facet of cancel culture, which is only enabled by the protection of the anonymity of those doxxing. Since anyone can be compelled to reveal the identity of anyone else via court order, who and what exactly do the forum rules protect? Anonymous, inexperienced derps online?  Well, as long as we’re on the same page.

There are other issues. Such as, when moderator actions are enforced they can only be enforced on an anonymous identity. If someone changes their identity they can escape moderator enforcement. This could be solved by tying moderator actions to an ID rather than anonymous profile. I was actually thinking of a kind of real-id system, which would allow you to remain anonymous but also tie you to a particular anonymous profile. Could solve a lot of issues.

Narrative vs. Authenticity

 

This video is fake.

The Canary in the Coal Mine

Low Level reports, “something is REALLY wrong with bug bounty“. What’s going on, is that people are using AI to find bugs in software and submitting them to “bug bounty” websites operated by computer security researchers. The problem is that the AI is hallucinating code and calls to subroutines, and the bugs don’t actually exist. This is becoming a huge problem as more false reports are now being submitted than real reports, and human beings have to go and check just to make sure the bugs are real in the first place.

  • Narrative: 1. a description of events

As it turns out, I’ve noticed this problem since late 2024 has started to affect online communities that I frequent, such as martial arts discussion boards on the internet.

  • Narrative: 2. the part of a novel that tells the story, rather than the dialogue

The thing is, just like with fake bug bounties trying to get money for nothing, a lot of people (people who should know better) are using AI to talk about martial arts in order to gain social standing by appearing more knowledgeable than they really are. They are trying to tell a story but the dialogue is strangely wrong. There have always been people like this. Greedy people, misrepresenting themselves. But as of now, you can no longer tell the difference because they are using AI to gain knowledge and make video evidence to fool you.

The reason I am able to tell is because I have what is called authenticity. The reason I have authenticity is because I have been actually involved in Tai Chi and Chinese martial arts for a very long time. I can’t be the only one who has noticed this. But i’ve already seen some of the more authentic posters online get duped by fake kungfu videos. Maybe I have even been duped by some really good fakes.

 

Today, already, people are posting AI fakes of themselves doing Kungfu, and it is very difficult to determine that the video is a fake.

It’s not just videos. You should know that right now, today, you are being lied to about Tai Chi and Kungfu. People are trying to make themselves look like they know a lot about Tai Chi and Kungfu online. They lie about how to do Tai Chi and what the basic requirements are about Kungfu. These people do not understand Kungfu, they do not understand the culture, and they have been captured by the milleau. Most likely you don’t even realize how far the wool has been pulled over your eyes already.

The only way to know what is true and authentic, will be to go back to the tradition, back to the lineage, and ask someone authentic to teach you. There is no longer an alternative because it is impossible to determine authenticity online. This was always a problem in the Tai Chi world especially but now it has become so acute that there is no longer a choice in the matter. Either you are part of an authentic tradition or you are not, and if you are not, you are “outside”.  Those who have lineage are now forced to become gatekeepers whether they want to or not. This is it! This is the end. You are either in or out, and the only way to get in is via the door. Only the teacher can show you the door. No Guru devotion, no enlightenment. Period.

  • Narrative: 3. a way of explaining events to illustrate a set of aims or values

Often times, a term which is infrequently used will pop up in a discussion and then suddenly people will begin using the term casually in their posts, or engaging in long, pointless academic discussions making reference to the word. Often using the term in ways it was never intended to be used. The whole thing is a bit weird, but makes sense once you speculate that these people are using AI to analyze threads and try to come up with a credible sounding response. Why? For social standing, of course. Because they want people to think they are better than you. Because they want to attack and demean people with real knowledge, so that they don’t get discredited by the truth. This is an extremely low level of Wu De. Their morals exist only so much as they do not get in the way of their personal success. These are the people most likely to violently attack you because you hold a different belief than they do.

Just Be Authentic?

  • Authenticity: the quality of being true or what somebody claims it is

There’s just one problem with being authentic. How do YOU know whether or not what I am saying is true versus what anyone else out there says is true? If you are new to the world of martial arts (or whatever subject is under discussion) you could easily be fooled by a liar trying to misrepresent himself using ChatGPT. Why should you listen to me? What makes me an authority?

The solution, the only way to fight this problem, is to not fight it at all. The solution is to change the stage on which the game is played.

Authenticity is now a commodity

The golden rule is, “He who has the gold makes the rules.”

This is not a bad thing. It means that the people who make the rules are the people with skin in the game. That’s why paying people works so well to establish credibility; because on the flipside people assume that the money will be used to attract the most credible people possible. This works everywhere, from highly skilled musicians and actors commanding a greater fee, to conventions which hire people from the industry to speak on various topics. If the people weren’t in the industry you could always find someone you didn’t have to pay. However, demand is created by the fact that the people have some knowledge or experience which itself has value. Therefore, the golden rule is the recognition that what we are really valuing is the knowledge and experience of people with skin in the game.

Everyone wants to be enlightened, but no one wants to pay for it.

This is how you chop off someone’s head in zen–ask them how much they would pay to get enlightened. The moment you have to put a cost on it, the fakers all start complaining. Those who are real rush at the opportunity to give you everything they have for the real gold. The real success. The rest, don’t chase it because the perceived value is not worth paying anything at all. Their true nature revealed, they disappear like flash powder. Poof.

None of this relies on any kind of forced behavior. It is just the picture of a healthy community. The problem is our community today is not like this; it is run by people who have not suffered to achieve what they have, but have abused social media to gain followers, mostly for personal gain, without concern for the art.

Confucius writes,「富與貴,是人之所欲也;不以其道得之,不處也。貧與賤,是人之所惡也;不以其道得之,不去也。」

“Wealth and honor are what people desire. If they cannot be obtained in the proper way, do not dwell in them. Poverty and low status are what people dislike. If they cannot be avoided by proper means, do not escape them.”

Mencius comments, “The great man is he who does not lose his childlike heart and puts righteousness above material gain” (Mencius 6A:10)

Confucius also writes,「志士仁人,無求生以害仁,有殺身以成仁。」“The determined person and the man of virtue do not seek to live at the expense of ren (benevolence). They may even sacrifice their lives to preserve ren;” and 「賢哉,回也!一簞食,一瓢飲,在陋巷,人不堪其憂,回也不改其樂。」“How admirable was Yan Hui! Living on a basket of rice and a gourd of water in a shabby alley — others could not endure such hardship, but Hui never let go of his joy.”

Mencius comments,「富貴不能淫,貧賤不能移,威武不能屈,此之謂大丈夫。」“Wealth and honor cannot corrupt him, poverty and lowliness cannot make him waver, power and force cannot bend him — this is what it means to be a great man.”

What is the meaning here?

Emperor Wen wore simple clothing, reduced palace expenses, and refused the construction of an expensive tomb. He dealt with matters of state in person and was deeply involved in governing using the principles of Ren and Li. Regarding Ren and Yi (Kindness and Justice), he reduced taxes, lightened punishments, and released prisoners. He also avoided un-necessary wars, choosing instead diplomacy and restraint. He expanded Han control through trade and business. This was a time known as the Rule of Wen and Jing (Jing was his son), a golden age of peace and prosperity in the early Western Han, directly attributed to his moral leadership.

Zhu Xi writes in commentary,

“To use the art of war properly, one must first have virtuous leadership, for the soldiers will follow the general’s character.”
Zhu Xi, Commentary on the “Art of War”

“To be a leader, one must first cultivate one’s virtue. If one does not cultivate one’s virtue, how can one lead others? A leader who has virtue will guide others with ease, for virtue leads to harmony.”
Zhu Xi, Commentary on The Doctrine of the Mean

The Next Generation

TO create a new society, to teach the next generation, one must be of the previous generation. Outsiders cannot come in and make changes. How could they? They are from a different system, a different style. If you are not a part of the lineage, how can you continue the lineage?

Even those with the best of intentions must first accept the truth. Only by accepting the truth can one understand what must be done next. Or else it is like swimming in the dark.

Lord Ye and the Dragon

葉公好龍,為之雕牆,畫龍、繪龍於屋;堂前柱上,刻龍也。真龍知而下之,葉公見之,棄而走。

“Lord Ye loved dragons. He had dragons carved on his walls, painted on his screens, and embroidered in his curtains. When the real dragon in Heaven heard of this, it was moved and came down to visit. But when Lord Ye saw the real dragon, he panicked and ran away.” (From: New Anecdotes of the Talk of the World by Liu Xiang (劉向) during the Han dynasty.)

The Decreasing Relevance of Online Forums

When I first began reading and posting on rec.martial-arts in the early 1990s, I saw online forums as a way for martial artists to explore and make sense of Chinese martial arts paradigms, and to connect with like-minded people. I didn’t expect to encounter so many people disillusioned with kung fu itself and who had “moved on” to other things.

As Usenet faded, I moved to other forums: Empty Flower, the Yang Family Tai Chi forum, Kung Fu Magazine forum, and more recently, MartialTalk. Although, I spent the most time on Rumsoaked Fist. There is a lot of good information posted there. Also a lot of garbage. Mostly garbage, by people who are pretending. But in comparison to rec.martial-arts, it’s a goldmine. However by late 2024, things began to change. I couldn’t believe my own eyes, but it became clear to me that AI tools like ChatGPT were being used to fake expertise in arts like Tai Chi. For me this was the last straw.

Of course, there have always been people who pretended to be good at Tai Chi or who misrepresented their martial art as Tai Chi in order to make money. But in this new era, misinformation wa louder, more confident, and more often wrong. Unlike before when people were earnestly trying to understand Tai Chi, today’s voices declare how it works, often contradicting one another. I believe it represents a generational shift. Something fundamental has changed in the community.

Back in the ‘70s and ‘80s, the Kung Fu craze left many disappointed due to a lack of authentic training, which eventually led to the rise of MMA. Many of those disillusioned students became today’s kung-fu skeptics and Chi-deniers. But the Tai Chi generation that followed had its own failure—those who practiced Tai Chi without believing or understanding Chi. This opened the door to distorted theories and false lineages. Groups like Taoist Tai Chi and modern push hands competitors, who often practice something that’s not really Tai Chi at all, are the fruits of what happened, not the cause. I don’t blame them, I pity them.

Today, that confusion is deeper than ever. Fundamental misunderstandings like equating wu wei with passivity, or mistaking mental void for meditation are promoted as wisdom. And forums I once respected have become irrelevant, either inactive or filled with misinformation. Often, the loudest voices are from people practicing something else entirely. Usually someone claiming MMA, hard weight training, or some other valid practice like Reiki, Feldenkrais or Wim Hof trying to pass themselves off as a Tai Chi expert. That’s not to dismiss a other arts; it’s just that Yoga isn’t Tai Chi, and vice versa.

Yes, we all know “fighting matters.” But not every school trains the same way. And now, many who spent decades on a misguided path are realizing they’ve come up empty and they’re looking for someone to blame. The truth? They were told. I was told by my sifu. So why weren’t others? The painful answer is: they were. But they didn’t listen. And today, the people who didn’t listen are the new experts. I fear that this is the last generational mistake before the end. When today’s MMA and progressive weightlifting crowd realizes they’ve failed (give them another 5-10 years) there will be nowhere left for them to turn.

Ultimately, the failure arises out of a lack of Wu De. Wu De is not “being a good person”. It is the code underwriting the internal arts. This is why it is said that the civil must be together with the martial, and it is why it is said that one needs a high level of wu de to learn high level martial arts.

If you care about Tai Chi Kung Fu, and you recognize the importance of Wu De, you will need to study it in order to learn about it. The answer is found in the four books.

There are many sets of “four books”. One is commonly called the Tai Chi classics. I don’t mean that, although you must also read them to understand Tai Chi in general.

I also do not mean just the Tao Te Ching, I Ching, Huangdi Neijing, and Transmission of the Lamp (for which the Blue Cliff Record can substitute in a pinch). Those are excellent books which you must also read in order to get a grounding in the Chinese philosophy which underpins the internal arts. Many people will say that one or more of these books are “must-reads”. Well, sure, they all have great things you can learn which will help your Tai Chi. But they do not teach Wu De.

The four books you are missing, the ones which are really important, are the four books that define Wu De. I’m talking about the Four Books that begin with the Da Xue (Great Learning). This is not Wu De from a dry, critical academic standpoint. It is Wu De in practice, it is practical, and it will directly inform your training.

Xunzi

Xunzi, also known as Xun Kuang or Hsün Tzu, was a significant Confucian philosopher who lived during the Warring States period, around 313-238 BCE. Born in the state of Zhao, Xunzi was a contemporary of other notable thinkers such as Mencius. Unlike Mencius, who believed in the inherent goodness of human nature, Xunzi argued that humans are born with a natural inclination towards selfishness and that only through education and the strict application of rituals (li) can people cultivate virtue and achieve moral improvement. His ideas were influential in shaping the development of Confucian thought and had a lasting impact on Chinese philosophy.

Xunzi’s teachings emphasized the importance of education, ritual, and the role of the state in promoting moral order. He believed that human nature, though fundamentally flawed, could be transformed through rigorous education and adherence to ritualistic practices. Xunzi served as a teacher and held various official positions, where he promoted his views on governance and ethics. He wrote extensively, with his works compiled into the book known as the “Xunzi,” which addresses various philosophical, political, and ethical issues. His pragmatic and somewhat pessimistic view of human nature set him apart from other Confucian thinkers and influenced later Legalist thinkers.

One of Xunzi’s notable teaching methods involved conducting his lessons during distracting events such as parades and dances. He believed that true scholars would remain focused and undistracted despite the chaos around them. By teaching in these lively environments, Xunzi could observe which students demonstrated the necessary discipline and concentration to absorb his lessons. Those who maintained their focus and adhered to proper conduct during such distractions were chosen by Xunzi as his students. This method not only helped him identify the most dedicated and serious learners but also instilled in them a deep sense of discipline and moral fortitude, which he deemed essential for personal development and effective governance. This approach underscored his belief in the transformative power of education and the critical role of self-discipline in achieving moral excellence.